Costamare [CMRE] Conference call transcript for 2023 q2
2023-07-28 11:02:05
Fiscal: 2023 q2
Operator: Thank you for standing by ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the Costamare Inc. Conference Call on the Second Quarter 2023 Financial Results. We have with us Mr. Gregory Zikos, Chief Financial Officer of the company. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. There will be a presentation followed by a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. I must advise you that this conference is being recorded today Friday, July 28, 2023. We would like to remind you that, this conference call contains forward-looking statements. Please take a moment to read Slide number 2 of the presentation which contains the forward-looking statements. And I will now pass the floor to your speaker today, Mr. Zikos. Please go ahead, sir.
Gregory Zikos: Thank you and good morning, ladies and gentlemen. During the second quarter of the year, the company generated net income of about $69 million. As of quarter end liquidity was $1 billion. In the container ship sector, the charter market has been softening although rates still remain at healthy levels. The order book, however, remains a principal threat to the market. On the dry bulk side, our own dry bulk vessels continue to trade on a spot basis, while the trading platform has grown to a fleet of 56 ships. Having invested $200 million in the dry bulk operating platform, we have a long-term commitment to the sector whose fundamentals we view positively. Regarding Neptune Maritime leasing, the platform has been steadily growing on a prudent basis, having concluded in total leasing transactions worth of $120 million which are complemented by a healthy pipeline extending over in the coming quarters. Finally, during the quarter we proceeded with our share buyback program and we have bought $15 million worth of common share highlighting our strong belief that the share price is heavily undervalued considering both the company's performance and prospects. Moving now to the slide presentation. On Slide 3, you can see our second quarter results. Net income for the quarter was roughly $63 million or $0.52 per share. Adjusted net income was around $69 million or $0.56 cents per share. Our liquidity stands at over $1 million. On Slide 4, you can see an update on our share repurchase program. Since the beginning of Q2, we partnered approximately 5.4 million common shares for $50 million worth. Slide 5. As far as CBI is concerned, we have chartering 56 period vessels with the majority of the fleet being on index linked, chartering agreements. 53 of those vessels have been already delivered and are running. Regarding our leasing platform, we have already invested around $50 million. Since inception, NML has financed 12 ships through sale and lease by transactions. Slide 6. Our financing arrangements amounted roughly to $175 million without an increase in leverage. Those deals were coupled with extension of maturities and improvement on fighting cost. We continue to charter on our driver basis in the sport market, having entered into more than 50 chartering agreements is our last earnings release. On the alternative side, our revenue days are essentially a hundred percent fixed for ‘23 and 87% fixed for ’24, while our contracted revenues are $2.9 billion with a TEU-weighted remaining time strategy duration of about 3.9 years. Slide 7, we have sold one dry bulk vessels and have agreed to acquire to keep size dry bulk ships. Both vessels will be partnered with cash on hand. In addition, we have concluded containerships transactions with your capital for two containerships vessels, while we have agreed to sell another containerships where we own a 49% equity interest. Moving to Slide 8, the containerships at the market has been softening. Although rates remain at healthy levels, driver market remains volatile while for the remainder of 2023, the FFA market indicates signs of recovery in Q3 and further strengthening in Q4. Finally, we continue to have a long uninterrupted division track record boosted by strong sponsor support. On Slide 9, our liquidity has increased significantly over the year, standing at above $1 billion. This liquidity gives us the ability to look for opportunities to grow the company on a healthy basis. Moving to Slide 10, Charter Rate the containership market have remaining at healthy levels. Added capacity remains at historically low levels of about 1%. And finally, on Slide 11, you can see the recent drive bulk market trends in the spotted forward market order book is at 7.4% of the total fleet. With that, we can conclude our presentation and we can now take questions. Thank you. Operator, we can take questions now.
Operator: [Operator Instructions]. The first question comes from the line of Mr. Omar Nokta from Jefferies. Please go ahead.
Omar Nokta : Thank you. Hi, Greg. Good afternoon.
Gregory Zikos: Hi, Omar. Good morning.
Omar Nokta : Just wanted to check on how things are going operationally. Clearly, Costamare has shifted more so into dry bulk over the past couple of years with investments in the midsize segments. Previously, you've now got the capes that are coming on, and you've also have CBI, the sector's been obviously kind of soft here over the past few quarters and just wanted to see kind of in terms of profitability in that business. It looks like it's eating somewhat into the container profits. In the release you show, the container business earning $127 million in the quarter dry bulk or the dry bulk fleet lost just three, but the trading business 24. And just wanted to ask about that $24 million. Would you say that is just simple? Is that commercial performance or is it more of just startup costs and building up CBI?
Gregory Zikos: Yes, it's two things. First of all, regarding our participation in the -- and our investment in the dry bulk sector, we are there for the long term. So, this is a long-term commitment of the company. As I think I have also stated in my commentary, now more specifically regarding CBI, the company started operations within the last six months, and has grown quite substantially starting from a zero ships charter into 56 ships chartering, and 53 of those have been delivered. So, I think, we -- two things. First, we need to allow the company sometime in order to amortize set up costs. At the same time, we had a lot of deliveries, which are from day one eating us without the ships having operated for a full period. So, I would say that, it's mainly a set up cost and the rollover of a new business. We have invested $200 million and we are very happy with the way, the company has grown over the last six months. At the same time, we are patient. So, I think it's mainly set up cost. And we are now at the initiation base. We need to allow more time in order to see the result that this entity will be yielding. Also, that the dry bulk is quite volatile environment, especially right now. But I think we have the rate, the right set up, and the right people, and the experience in order to capitalize on the market upside whenever that comes.
Omar Nokta : Okay, thanks, Greg. That's helpful. And then just in terms of you mentioned giving it sometime. Do you think, you've got 53 of the 56 ships in house now? So maybe the media’s part of the startup costs have taken place, is that the case? Or do you potentially look to maybe, does that 56-ship fleet is that going to be -- are you aiming to get that to 75 or a 100? Or is 56 sort of the going number or within that range here in the near term?
Gregory Zikos: It depends on market conditions. Our goal is to grow the company and to have a meaningful size, within that sector as an operator. Now, whether we're going to go to a bigger number of ships sooner or later, there's also a lot of commercial considerations. We have the equity, we have the capacity to grow, but we also need to look at the market conditions. So most probably, I would say that, it's a question of like when rather than of whether we are going to be growing or not. But I think the growth needs to be on a healthy basis and step-by-step. So, let's see. I cannot predict the growth very simply because I cannot predict the market.
Omar Nokta : Now that's fair. That's a tough question, I guess. And then maybe just one final one. Clearly, you announced the buyback. You were very aggressive putting $50 million to work. And you paid roughly about $9 a share, a little above that. The stock is up a little bit from there. Do you still see the price today attractive? And can we expect that remaining $40 million to be put to work quickly?
Gregory Zikos: Look, regarding the first part of the question, I do consider that the stock is undervalued, whether someone looks in terms of NAV, in terms of profitability, in terms of the prospects, in terms of track record, however, you look at it, it's undervalued and this is the reason we bought those common stock shares of $50 million worth over the last quarter. Now I cannot predict and also for legal reasons. I cannot tell you now what's our plan for the remaining $40 million of the program or likely whether this program is going to be extended and add more capacity there. I cannot predict this now. But I can tell you that we generally believe that the stock is undervalued and we prefer that buying back common stock at the level, it definitely made sense.
Omar Nokta : Okay. That's clear. Thanks, Greg. I'll turn it over.
Operator: The next question comes from Mr. Ben Nolan with Stifel. Please go ahead.
Unidentified Analyst: Good morning or good afternoon. It's actually Pranella on for Ben, but thank you for taking my question. I wanted to ask about, at the moment, both container and dry bulk asset prices have come down. Although in each case, both are still historically elevated. But at the moment, do you see Costamare as a better buyer or seller of each type?
Gregory Zikos: Yes, you are right. I mean asset values have come down, but not to a level where they reflect today's charter rates, and especially for the containers, not at a level where they reflect consensus about how the charter rates are going to be developing over the next quarters. So, regarding the containerships, for the time being, we are not buyers. And as, we haven't bought any container ships over the last couple of years. And also, we didn't put any new building orders because we felt that asset prices both for secondhand and for new buildings were elevated. So, there we wait and see. But I agree with you that, although asset values can come down still, they are not at levels that, they are so attractive the way we like normally buying vessels. Now regarding the dry bulk market, again, as you saw, we bought two Capesize of middle age. We felt the price made sense. But for the time being, we haven't seen a substantial correction in asset prices, at levels close to levels we bought our dry bulk fleet a couple of years ago. It was actually two years ago. So there, we do wait and see. So, we have the equity. We have cash together with available liquidity of slightly above $1 billion. We have access to commercial bank debt. So, when we feel that the asset prices do make sense, also judging from a track record, we have the ability to buy and execute quite fast. For the time being, we are sitting and waiting opportunistically, we could be buying some assets here and there if on a case by case, we feel it makes sense.
Operator: [Operator Instructions]. Being no further questions. This concludes the question-and-answer session. I will now pass the floor back to Mr. Zikos for his closing remarks.
Gregory Zikos: Thank you for dialing in, and thank you for your interest in Costamare. We look forward to speaking with you again during our next quarterly results call. Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. That does conclude our conference. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect.
